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monaghan

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« on: September 23, 2004, 04:07:00 am »
I\\\'ve not seen a decent computer room or DC without raised flooring.

It gives you a simple & easy route for cabling (via suitable holes in the floor tile under each cab. Generally 19\" racks seem to be built for cable entry from the bottom, although I guess you could run cables from the side or top.

Not sure about this... but potentially the under floor void could be useful as an intake of cooler air.

If you\\\'ve ever had to route bunches of cables beween cabs that are floor mounted you\\\'ll soon wish they had a big hole in the floor to an accessible under floor void :-)

Hostaffect

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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2004, 04:07:00 am »
I\"m not sure yet exactly what we\\\'re going to do.

Matt, maybe something along those lines . I\\\'ll keep my mouth.shut. LOL..

Kerry Jones

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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2004, 04:07:00 am »
No you do not have a raised floor, but yes its good for managing cable. When I was in Cisco we had a network in class, but we had what you would call a \"raised ceiling\" Basically all the wiring was done in the raised ceiling and the wires were brought down through metal pipes for a pop connection. Most of the wires are marked with a tag for network adminstrators. The bad side of a raised ceiling is due to the lights and neon lights they cause something called EMS(Electromagnetic Static) which slows down the network. If you build a network with a raised  ceiling I suggest using Fiber Optic cable since it elimates EMS.

Hostaffect

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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2004, 04:07:00 am »
I know it\\\'s good for Cable Management which is what I like about it.

Matt

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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2004, 04:07:00 am »
Looks like it is prefrence.. I think it is a great idea.. but like stated before.. I think it comes down to if the investment is what you are looking to make( how much it cost)

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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2004, 04:07:00 am »
would be alot cheaper and easier to replace damaged/faulty cables with rasied flooring

Kerry Jones

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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2004, 04:07:00 am »
A raised ceiling is just as good as a raised floor. I dont think there is much of a difference and I disagree... I think a chilled room overall is the best. It takes more AC, but nothing is that room will emit a large amount of heat.

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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2004, 04:07:00 am »
in the end its not a \"must\" but a good thing to have, if you can afford it its worth while.

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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2004, 04:07:00 am »
Quote:                                 Originally Posted by Kerry Jones            A raised ceiling is just as good as a raised floor. I dont think there is much of a difference and I disagree... I think a chilled room overall is the best. It takes more AC, but nothing is that room will emit a large amount of heat.                     
A raised floor will provide an overall chilled room, it will just cool in a much more efficient manner. Simply blasting the AC leaves hot spots around the data center. Raised flooring makes it much easier to create circulation patterns to keep the entire facility chilled.

Believe me, go to a data center that just blasts the AC and then go to a data center with raised flooring and an efficient cooling patterns and you will definitely notice the difference. There is a very noticeable difference between facilities that were designed to be data centers and \"data centers\" that are just converted office space.

Regards,
Aaron

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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2004, 04:07:00 am »
It actually depends on how you pipe the ac in order to chill the room. A raised for is not a must... if you link up piping and then have air blowing from both sides of the room its just as effient as a raised floor.

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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2004, 04:07:00 am »
Anyway, we decided to do raised flooring.

worldchanger

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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2004, 04:07:00 am »
Quote:                                 Originally Posted by sailor            raised flooring is a major fire hazard that a good dc will not allow.  it also typically creates a cabling mess when somone decides to cable under the floor which eventually leads to an obstructed cabling space.

raised floor is from the old  days when large main frames were designed with a hole in the bottom of htem to sit on a hole in the floor to recived their cooling from the plenum space.  this is how it was done - unless of course you had a fancy water cooled mainframe like the company I used to work at had.

any way - in the hard core telco centers designed to run at 100% uptime with no hazards you will not find a shred of raised floor.                     
I would have to disagree entirely.  Any server room becomes a high candidate of becoming a fire hazard.  Just because it\\\'s built on raised flooring doesn\\\'t mean anything.  Many of the government’s top server farms are built upon raised flooring.  Government installations have the strictest rules when it comes to fire prevention and security.  Raise floors are no more a security threat than raised ceilings.  When you have a solid concrete room from ceiling to floor it doesn’t really matter.  Many of these same DCs and other commercial DCs have extremely tight security when it even comes to accessing the data floor.  In the government sector and the commercial sector, you are going to be escorting all contractors and visitors around the data floor at all times.  As to which one is better, it comes down to personal preference.  There are many factors that will determine which way companies/organizations go such as: money, ceiling height, location, and etc.  The current center I work at uses cable ladder’s above the racks.  The DC we are in the process of building will utilize raised flooring.  In one scenario you have to lift up floor tiles to work, the other you have to break out a ladder.  It all ends up becoming a personal preference of which system works best for you in your environment.  In the same matter you can\\\'t find a single reason raised floor is better, I can\\\'t really find a reason why it would be worse.

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2004, 04:07:00 am »
Would just like to note that the previous posts were made by the former owner of HostAffect, not me.  I actually see no good use for raised flooring.  Equinix has proven that raised flooring is not necessary.  Simply use overhead conduits for running cable, much simpler than doing it under the floor and then a properly done overhead cooling system, as cold air falls anyway, which would make it more efficient than pushing it up through the floor.

I am actually unable to find a single advantage to raised flooring, other than the fact that that seems to be what most people expect.

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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2004, 04:07:00 am »
There are reasons to chose the ladder rack, or cieling based system.  First of all, it is cheaper, in almost all cases.  Second, according to most of what I have read, cooling from above, and not the raised floor type of cooling is more efficient overall.  This does make sense, as cold air falls...  In addition, in most cases, running cables above the racks is an easier and more organized process than being forced to put them underneath, forcing you to lift up tiles, go around all sorts of supports, etc.

I\\\'m not saying that you are an idiot for chosing raised flooring, if you have compared the two methods and deemed raised floors to be better for you, good.  I just see no reason for it in any setup I may have.

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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2004, 04:07:00 am »
Quote:                                 Originally Posted by Hostaffect            There are reasons to chose the ladder rack, or cieling based system.  First of all, it is cheaper, in almost all cases.  Second, according to most of what I have read, cooling from above, and not the raised floor type of cooling is more efficient overall.  This does make sense, as cold air falls...  In addition, in most cases, running cables above the racks is an easier and more organized process than being forced to put them underneath, forcing you to lift up tiles, go around all sorts of supports, etc.

I\\\'m not saying that you are an idiot for chosing raised flooring, if you have compared the two methods and deemed raised floors to be better for you, good.  I just see no reason for it in any setup I may have.                     
Like I said, it comes down to budget and personal preference.