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byronm

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« on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 am »
LANCASTER, PA (PRWEB) April 8, 2004 -- Today is the beta launch of mozdex.com , an Open search system built on open source technologies. April 6th marks the first public tests of our systems in preparation for a full index of the Internet in the coming weeks.

Mozdex.com offers the firsts OPEN search system based on publicly available software, APIs and algorithms, said Byron Miller, President at Small Productions. There is no secrecy into understanding the results or ranking thereof offering the first public insight into an open index.

What does Open Search Mean?

Searching the Internet has always been something people just did without ever wondering how it worked. Mozdex.com offers the insight into the search results that allow people to fully understand how they are ranked and displayed.

\"Mozdex offers me the ability to tune my website for best search ability and user friendliness,\" said Joe Norman, search fanatic. \"I no longer spend so much time trying to cheat the algorithm but rather work with it.\"

Mozdex.com availability

You can point your web browser to http://www.mozdex.com and give our search a test. Webmasters & publishers can add their Uris for inclusion in our index and see how they rank in our results. Your feedback and comments are greatly appreciated and will be used to tune and optimize our index.

Founded in 2002, Small Productions leads the way to Internet marketing and promotion. The company offers a wide range of services designed to empower businesses with online resources to fulfill marketing and brand awareness.

For more information, press only:
Byron Miller, 717-629-8049

For more information on mozdex.com:
http://www.mozdex.com
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byronm

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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 am »
Well, the explain will be enhanced to show hyperlinks describing the terms used.

Basically the explain shows your absolute rank. If you look at the details you will see the weights that are used to calculate your rank.  Our belief is sure \"spammers\" can see this to tweak the pages to get higher rank, but that will allow us to better optimize our algorithm so we can find the patterns that lend themselves to cheating.

BUT as i said, it will be updated to describe the process soon.

And our quote was from a search fanatic, not an SEO. He just intrigued by searching all day to find stuff..
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 am »
Oh okay.

\"I no longer spend so much time trying to cheat the algorithm but rather work with it.\"

Yes, but he said that so he either does SEO on his own site or also does others. But even at that, most of us never \'cheat\' the algos. We don\'t have to.
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byronm

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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 am »
SEO is an act of \"Faith\" - Even stated in your sig that its not an absolute science.

We are here to give Science and FACTS to search. The facts can and WILL change as we tweak the alogorithm to better suit our needs and that of our clients - Searchers and Publishers, however the difference between the \"other\" engines and us is that we will use OPEN technologies, OPEN algorithms and work with the scientific and academia communities to come up with the best search solution possible.

My friend quoted is a researcher and not an \"SEO\" he understands the concepts of what is behind google and yahoo but like you and i know unless you work for them no one REALLY knows ho it works (again, as stated in your sig hehe). He publishers papers that he does \"\"SEO\"\" on to get them noticed, however his interests lie in the concept of information retrieval, storage, ranking and processing and not that of generating revenue.

Our quote was merely meant to offer an easy level of understanding as to what our basic goals are.  We will have whitepapers available to those who wish to know every intrinsic detail, however that is not meant for inclusion into a national PR campaign

I welcome everyones comments and I look forward to announce our new index coming may 1st which will have about 150 million pages indexed so you can see a better result mix that we will work from to optimize for our goal of 800 million pages by the end of summer.

Thanks!
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 am »
BTW, I just did a search on this phrase:

search engine optimization

This site was #1

http://www.toptimizeit.com/

Click to page 2 or this 2 page website. You call that a SEO? lol

Yes,.... that is a nice results page you have there on that phrase.
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byronm

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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 am »
For the population of pages that we have in that particular index (beta) it is ranked accordingly.

Things will change as we add segments to the index.

When our ranking is done it is done based on the pages that are currently \"consumed\'.. Since we only consumed a segment of the internet that isn\'t yet proportional to the whole to rankings will change.

And honestly, when you search for that code you do get relevent results,  so i\'m not sure what you is being pointed out.  Not up to par of what you expect or what?
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 am »
Are you saying those results are legitimate SEO sites? Maybe one or two but that is it.

Besides, you said that on May 1st 150 million pages would be indexed. That\'s enough to have some kind of decent results.
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 am »
quote:We do not send unsolicited emails. So why do you ask for email addresses? You do not have an opt-in list, merely a request for the addy.
If You don\'t send unsolicited emails, and you give no option for me to solicit them, then the only possible use of my address is for you to pass it on (or sell it?) to someone who does send unsolicited emails.
Please clarify this.
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 am »
Oh yes, I agree with that.

The major search engines have \"never\" asked for an email address at all. I don\'t see how an email is relevant for a regular search engine. Nor do I see a TOS or privacy policy for what happens to that email address.

This is an important point if you want to play with the big boys.
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 am »
quote:Originally posted by Quadrille
So why do you ask for email addresses? You do not have an opt-in list, merely a request for the addy.
If You don\'t send unsolicited emails, and you give no option for me to solicit them, then the only possible use of my address is for you to pass it on (or sell it?) to someone who does send unsolicited emails.
Please clarify this.  

Because we use ESMTP ehlo on the email address.  If you can\'t provide an email address to verify the submission of the domain then i won\'t spend the money, cpu and resources to index the site being submitted

Our privacy policy says we don\'t give it out and we won\'t use it to market to you and such, doesn\'t say we won\'t ask for it.

We get over 10,000 repeat submitters a day and with using ESMTP auth we find that about 90% of those are spammers posting every page on a site (not reading directions) or automated programs with false information.

We have a right to protect our index and our data in as much of a right as you have to choose to not provide valid information

We will be launching an opt in list but that will be on a seperate page more so for people to find out when we do updates.
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 am »
Then why not simply use what altavista uses; an alphabet thing that only a human can fill in?
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 am »
quote:Originally posted by ihelpyou
Then why not simply use what altavista uses; an alphabet thing that only a human can fill in?  

Why is it a big issue? I have a privacy policy and i live by it. Has any of the 150k submissions we have received been emailed?  We don\'t even KEEP the emails, its just an esmtp ehlo and if the person didn\'t provide an email address that is valid i don\'t spend the time to visit the site

We may get to the site through natural link indexing and following sites that we spider, however its an easy check for us to add some legitimecy to the sites that we import and choose not to submit for inclusion (but again may get found if indeed they\'re legitimate sites).

Random numbers doesn\'t give us any insite into the data coming in.
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 am »
Hi ByronM,

I wouldimagine starting a new search engine from scratch is a daunting proposition.  The proof, of course, will be whether or not you serve up useful results.

If you manage to provide value to a searcher, you will be successful. All of us tend to use the best service we can find for searches.

Personnaly, I abhor pop -ups and ad filled pages.  If I surf to a site that incorporates those things, I leave.  I could care less whether or not I really need their service or product; they will not be getting my business.
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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 am »
quote:Originally posted by byronm
Why is it a big issue? I have a privacy policy and i live by it. Has any of the 150k submissions we have received been emailed?  We don\'t even KEEP the emails, its just an esmtp ehlo and if the person didn\'t provide an email address that is valid i don\'t spend the time to visit the site ....  It may be more of an issue for others than some.

IMO, it\'s an issue due to the fact that spam through email harvesting and email list selling is so rampant. I don\'t know you, nor whether you will abide by your policy, nor whether your policy may change in the future (please don\'t take this the wrong way as I am not casting aspersions, and am only pointing out possibilities).

I would suspect that if your endeavour became wildly popular (and I wish you the best of luck in that) that you may hear more complaints about this issue.

Why not make this opt-in and get your data from those willingly volunteering it?
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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 am »
We are making some algo updates and re-analyzing our links today.. since this will be the 3rd time the results have been re-fetching scoring should be better balanced.

I\'ll pop in and give an update of when this is done so you can see if your SEO keywords are better matched
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